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post Mar 7 2010, 07:42 AM
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post Mar 7 2010, 08:11 AM
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Not that I have any idea what I'm doing on my altadin, but isn't Haste to cloak & Int to bracers better than SP? I suppose Int or SP to weapon is debatable since it's a TBC enchant.
Why did you buy the T10 chest when the off piece chest from frost badges is better?
Also isn't Talisman of Resurgence & Purified Lunar Dust better than the ilv245 Solace?

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As far as I'm aware those people aren't in WWA.


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post Mar 7 2010, 08:33 AM
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QUOTE(Mystearica @ Mar 7 2010, 08:11 AM) *
Not that I have any idea what I'm doing on my altadin, but isn't Haste to cloak & Int to bracers better than SP? I suppose Int or SP to weapon is debatable since it's a TBC enchant.
Why did you buy the T10 chest when the off piece chest from frost badges is better?
Also isn't Talisman of Resurgence & Purified Lunar Dust better than the ilv245 Solace?
As far as I'm aware those people aren't in WWA.




Hast to cloak is nice, but being hast caped already SP is a nice way to clean up.

Int to wep is alright but considering i get more from using the SP enchant and the eng Rocket boots make up for the crit that i could get from it. Also mana is not a issue. Hints why i have SP to bracers aswell.

From my RAWR report and from what i have been gathering. Solace> Purified lunar dust> talisman
Both in Fight healing and burst healing.

Solace 245-258 are still BIS for HL pallys to get the most out of your healing.


Currently being in this guild i have not been able to collect enough badges for the Lunar Dust but will get it. Was already on my list. As for the Talism. I wont get it.

I was FOL spec stacking SP before i joined FALLEN so i was using Diff trinkets then i am now.
Also have Silver of pure ice and Althors Abacus in my bags.

I got the T10 Chest peice bc in the end i will get T10.5 so on. When i was Gm of IUYB it was a rule to get the 251 peices before you get the tokens. So thus i got all the T10. Even tho i could get better there was talk of them changing the pally 4 set but still nothing.

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post Mar 7 2010, 12:42 PM
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- First Name: Xirony ????


aren't flask of distilled wisdom or elixirs better than frost wyrm flasks as well as a holy pally? ohmy.gif

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post Mar 7 2010, 01:45 PM
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From what i read (about 3-4 lines worth of information) you value spell power over intellect. Why?


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post Mar 7 2010, 02:08 PM
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Why did you make the subject so annoying?


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post Mar 7 2010, 03:56 PM
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from what i remmember Int > Spell power no matter how much you have and also you dont use flasks as a holy paly you use 40 haste/40 intellect elixers also you eat 40 haste food. I might be wrong but im pretty sure thats the setup
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post Mar 7 2010, 04:32 PM
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Why don't you just find out if you're not sure?


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post Mar 7 2010, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(Kariz @ Mar 7 2010, 04:32 PM) *
Why don't you just find out if you're not sure?

me or the holly pally? i dont play a pally so i was to lazy to look into it but i think he should
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post Mar 7 2010, 06:38 PM
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Haste is better on your cloak, regardless of weather you are at the soft cap or not.

Your shoulder enchant should be Spellpower + mp5, not crit. The Mp5 is worth more regen since 3.2.

You talked about getting different trinkets, so that is good.

No run speed/poj is also not good.

None of it is real deal breaking obviously (other than the run speed in my mind) but it's still a good idea to optimize. Our holy pallys will always be tank healing so we really don't have a need for the FOL spec if you really wanted to go that way.


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post Mar 7 2010, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE(Phrequency @ Mar 7 2010, 12:42 PM) *
- First Name: Xirony ????
aren't flask of distilled wisdom or elixirs better than frost wyrm flasks as well as a holy pally? ohmy.gif



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QUOTE(Kaienny @ Mar 7 2010, 01:45 PM) *
From what i read (about 3-4 lines worth of information) you value spell power over intellect. Why?


Int is good indeed, Your right. If changing my wep enchant to 30 int is needed then so be it. It states that ether one is good. bracers too.

Considering i have not touched them and my WOL will state that my healing is still more impressive without it like my other pallys in the guild.

QUOTE(Killmour @ Mar 7 2010, 06:38 PM) *
Haste is better on your cloak, regardless of weather you are at the soft cap or not.

Your shoulder enchant should be Spellpower + mp5, not crit. The Mp5 is worth more regen since 3.2.

You talked about getting different trinkets, so that is good.

No run speed/poj is also not good.

None of it is real deal breaking obviously (other than the run speed in my mind) but it's still a good idea to optimize. Our holy pallys will always be tank healing so we really don't have a need for the FOL spec if you really wanted to go that way.


Haste is good weather or not i am hast caped or not, but i am also 100+ over it. That is not including the Wrath of Air from shammys or the Judgement of pure which is another 15% Nor does it take into account of lights grace. Ether way 1.2 HL cast is only .2 seconds off of GCD.

With the Crit on shoulders even with the nerf on illumination still a big park in saving mana.

With the trinkets im going with solace and lunardust considering they still give me both more Fight healing and burst healing.

I have also been looking around and seeing you guys are big on the speed to boots thing. Every app almost discusses this. If somone cant get out of the void zone then the speed boots will help them out for being a Etard that doesnt have enough reaction time to move out of it. IE i am not dumb i can move freely without speed increase.

"Also want to state that if these changes are needed to raid with this guild then things will change. Having variety is always good. variety that can do the same or better is good."
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post Mar 7 2010, 08:07 PM
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Ether way you look at it. All my enchants are top for Fight healing and burst healing. IE Just because im not like that guy or that one that makes mine wrong? Like i said i will change if these problems to you are that big. Over all iv ran the reports i have min/maxed my toon. I know how to play and i can heal.
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post Mar 7 2010, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE(Xirony @ Mar 7 2010, 07:58 PM) *
I have also been looking around and seeing you guys are big on the speed to boots thing. Every app almost discusses this. If somone cant get out of the void zone then the speed boots will help them out for being a Etard that doesnt have enough reaction time to move out of it. IE i am not dumb i can move freely without speed increase.


Runspeed to boots is the best enchant for pretty much every class in the game, the faster you move the faster you can start healing / dpsing / picking your ass again. It has nothing to do with saving your ass from something stupid, although it does help, but not by much. Retards will still be retards.




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post Mar 8 2010, 03:30 AM
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You guys realize 24 crit to boots = rocket boots right? So stop bitching at this person to get "run speed to boots" because obviously he has rocket boots and you're all just clueless thinking there is some random 24crit to boots enchant he's using.

So Xirony, your boot enchant is fine.


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post Mar 8 2010, 04:24 AM
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QUOTE(Tropix @ Mar 8 2010, 03:30 AM) *
You guys realize 24 crit to boots = rocket boots right? So stop bitching at this person to get "run speed to boots" because obviously he has rocket boots and you're all just clueless thinking there is some random 24crit to boots enchant he's using.

So Xirony, your boot enchant is fine.



I do not know if your just pulling my Chain, but Rocket boots IE 24 crit and boost of speed. To clear anything up.
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post Mar 8 2010, 11:41 AM
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Nope, I wasn't pulling your chain. Just reminding my guild mates that the 24crit to boots on wow armory is actually rocket boots which is more than acceptable.


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post Mar 8 2010, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(Tropix @ Mar 8 2010, 03:30 AM) *
You guys realize 24 crit to boots = rocket boots right? So stop bitching at this person to get "run speed to boots" because obviously he has rocket boots and you're all just clueless thinking there is some random 24crit to boots enchant he's using.

So Xirony, your boot enchant is fine.



You're right, except that one of the strengths of rocket boots on a holy pallie is that you can have PoJ (read: movespeed) and rocket boots.

Also, even though rocket boots are acceptable the reasoning is wrong.

But that is a bit of an aside, a digression. I'm just poking in here to point that out.


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post Mar 8 2010, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE(Tropix @ Mar 8 2010, 03:30 AM) *
You guys realize 24 crit to boots = rocket boots right? So stop bitching at this person to get "run speed to boots" because obviously he has rocket boots and you're all just clueless thinking there is some random 24crit to boots enchant he's using.

So Xirony, your boot enchant is fine.


Uh, nowhere in my post does it say to get it, I was merely pointing out why it's a good idea for most people since his line of thinking was off the mark.


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post Mar 8 2010, 10:56 PM
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I am going to close this. I have my spot in the raid now. So thank you for your time.
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