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[Teddytauren]

- First Name:
Garret

- Your Country / Time zone:
US, Pacific Time

- Age:
20

- Do you have Ventrilo and working microphone?
Yes

- Are you able to handle mature (or immature) content on Ventrilo and in guild chat?
Yes

- Do you have the capacity to clearly communicate, yet have a knowledge of when it's appropriate to keep comments to yourself?
Yes

- Are you presently employed or a student. Will it interfere with your ability to raid? Will you be able to attend 99% of our raids? Do you have any other Real Life obligations which might prevent you from attending 99% of our raids? Will you, in the near future, have any obligations that will make you unable to raid?
Currently I'm taking a class that's Tu/Thu 5-7 PST. The semester will be over before MoP comes out and I can take days off if needed. Other than this, There shouldn't be any scheduling problems

- Do you have any PC or disconnect issues we should know about?
No

- Are you able to handle harsh criticism? You can, and will, be subjected to harsh criticism and you will be called out when you do not perform.
Yes

- Class / Character Name:
Warrior - Teddytauren

- Race:
Tauren. Will change for progression.

- Professions:
Blacksmithing/Jewelcrafting

- Do your professions increase your performance in raids? Explain your choices
Two more gems and a few better gems. The most flexible profession bonuses there are.

- Total time played (/played) and Time played at 85
359 days, 109 at this level

-Is this your first main character? If not what did you used to play? When did you start playing WoW? Please provide detailed information about time spent on all your previous characters. Tell us as much as you can, the more the better.
Yes this is my first main character. I started in vanilla, but didn't attempt to be competitive until cata started. I played on Kirin Tor before Cata, made friends, then decided I wanted to play at a higher level. I left Kirin Tor and attempted to raid at a high level in 10m guilds. I decided it wasn't as competitive as I wanted, so I switched to 25m for Dragon Soul.

-Main Spec:
Main: http://www.wowhead.com/talent#LGRccRMRurzcrZob:Mcma0Rz0c
Spine(not usually used anymore): http://www.wowhead.com/talent#LG0MZIr0cskkMfdZh:zkmwac0zm
I have a prot spec that I would tailor to a fight if it was needed and gear that is ~393 ilvl.
I much prefer Fury to Arms, but Arms is better for most parts of DS so that's my main spec.

-Armory Link:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/stor...tauren/advanced

-What is your current guild?
Accession

-What were the last 3 guilds you were in? What are the reasons for leaving your last and current guild? Tell us about your time in each and how active you were in each.
Accession (Stormreaver)- Didn't pass trial. Logged on for raids, but there wasn't much else to do.
Enigma (Deathwing)- Cleared Dragon Soul with them until they broke up. Liked the atmosphere and the people in the guild, shame it died.
Valence (Altar of Storms) - I enjoyed finishing up T11 with them, but was frustrated by our slow progress in T12.

- What end game raiding experience do you have? Be thorough. The more detail the better.
I came back from a break during ICC a few months before cata and attempted to catch up on H ICC kills. Didn't kill H LK. Started raiding competitively in cata, joined Very Respectful (10m). It died in late T11. Joined Valence (10m) and left after Firelands. Joined Enigma (25m) left after Dragon Soul. Enigma placements are my most significant achievements.

- Any special Achievements / Titles / Mounts you have earned in PvE you would like us to know about?
Only the Enigma achievements are notable, I have the mounts from T11 and T12, but not T13.

- Link to WWS / WMO logs of recent raid(s) you have attended.
http://worldoflogs.com/reports/ihl4bgf1s0d...3707&e=4019
Should have used inner rage more

- Provide a Quick Summary of your "Valuable" Stats (Healing, Attack Power, etc.) as you understand them for your class.
Str: More AP, more damage.
Crit: More enrage uptime
Mastery: More chances for procs, especially important for gurthtalak and spellweaving procs, though aoe does it better.
Haste: shmeh. Hit faster, more rage.
Hit and Expertise should just be close to cap.

- Which major and prime glyphs do you currently use?
Prime - MS/OP/Slam. The only ones that directly increase my damage.
Major - Long charge/Vic Rush/Sweeping Strikes. No better options except cleave for aoe.

- Do you have dualspec, and is your offspec something you could viably play in raids?
Yes and yes.

- What spec do you prefer? Are you willing to respec if an emergency arises? Are you willing to respec to the optimal spec for a progression boss?
I prefer fury to arms, but arms is better for most situations in Dragon Soul. (Fury beats arms on Ultrax, Spine burst, and Madness final phase, but Arms is better for everything else.

- How do you feel about sitting out for any given encounter if we do not need you? It will happen.
Someone has to sit. As long as it's fairly decided I'm fine with it.

- Are you willing to spend 400+ gold a night in repairs and consumables, stay focused and wipe for 4 hours straight, come back the next day and do it all over again until a new boss dies (even on "farm" content)?
Yes

- What is your reason for applying? What makes us more appealing that any one of the thousands of other raiding guilds out there?
You're better than the thousands of raiding guilds out there. You're also competitive, which is something I'm interested in.

- Who, if anyone, will vouch for your abilities in WWA?
Donnut maybe. Haven't raided with him since T11

- Post a screenshot of your UI.
http://imgur.com/a/ffCKw

- Last words: Show us what sets you apart from the rest of the candidates; what makes you better? What can you bring to WWA? What do you want us to know that wasn’t covered? Let us know why WE want YOU. This is your last chance to impress us, be thorough. Do not answer this question with one sentence. Once again, the more complete the answer, the better.
I know my class and I keep up with how to play it most efficiently. If someone shows me something that can improve my performance I adapt and become better. I learn from my mistakes and then stop making them. I'm always trying to be better.
I have never fought a boss that I didn't enjoy, because I like the challenge that every boss brings and the accomplishment of overcoming that challenge. That feeling of accomplishment is one of the main reasons I play this game.

[Voore]

spoke with a friend in accession, seems like you did alright but really didn't stand out. i'll have a chat with an ex-enigma raider to see how you were during progression.

[Hozz]

I spoke to a friend in Enigma and he basically told me these things:

1. Under normal circumstances, you wouldn't have passed your trial, but you did because they needed a warrior for progression.

2. Your unwillingness to race change from a tauren to an orc really, really pissed off a lot of people.

3. You weren't terrible, but you didn't stick out as a great player.

4. Fading light is an issue for you.


I'll talk to my friend in Accession later to get his opinion on it, but, judging by what Voore has said, I think Accession got the same impression from you.


The second point that I listed above was one of the reasons why your application was denied the first time. It also seems to have been an issue in Enigma. When MoP comes out, there's a decent chance that pandas will have a ridiculously OP racial, especially when compared to other races (barring any changes to the current races' racials). Knowing that, would you be willing to play a panda for at least progression?

I'd like to point out that nearly every person in this guild has a favorite race to play, regardless of racials. However, during progression, our raiders are willing to play whichever race is the strongest, even if that means they have to be uggo for a little while. When progression is over, many of us will race change back to our preferred race until the next tier of content comes around.

[clearlylol]

You honestly don't seem worth it. You refuse to race change for some stupid reason, yet you want to top tier raid. Everything I've heard is you're an okay player, which doesn't make me want to give you a chance because... you don't do everything possible to make yourself even just a little better.

You got lucky making it into Enigma, didn't make it into Accession, and now you are back here app'ing again... as I'm sure you are at many other top tier guilds. Why do I think that? Because that's what you did last time, you don't care where you land as long as it's in a certain range without really caring how that guild might interact with you and vice versa.


Good luck with your app, I hope you don't get in, but that's just my opinion.


P.S. Yes, I know you said you would race change for progression, but you didn't last tier... when asked even.... it's a little too late imo.

[Teddytauren]

Enigma had extra melee, so I don't think it's true that they needed a warrior for progression. There also aren't really any fights in which warriors are better than other classes except maybe ultrax.

I was told when I joined that I would get shit for being a tauren, but that it wasn't necessary. So I didn't switch. Enigma allowed it as a style choice, but you will not, so I'll switch to whatever is better for progression

There's really no excuse for fading light, so I have no idea what to say. I felt like a retard whenever I fucked it up. I don't think I was the worst at fading light, but I still failed more than I expected to.

[Teddytauren]

you don't care where you land as long as it's in a certain range without really caring how that guild might interact with you and vice versa.

That's an interesting statement.
The funny thing is is that I don't know how this guild is going to interact with me. But I won't know unless I raid with them. The same is true of any other guild. So how could I choose a guild based on how they interact with me when I can't know that without joining?
The only thing I truly know about the people in this guild is that you guys are good at the game. You might all be assholes. You might be the coolest people that ever lived. But until I get to know you, I have no idea. That's a chance that I have to take just as a guild accepting an app hopes that their applicant is not an asshole.

Basically this whole "you're just a cold hearted bastard who only cares about guild rank" thing amuses me because how else am I supposed to choose a guild?


If I didn't talk about the race thing enough:
In my last app I said I'd prefer not to change, but if necessary I will. That's basically what I told Enigma, and they accepted me. Then I was never asked to switch. So I didn't.
Now (probably because of Enigma) I've shuffled priorities. That style choice is no longer as important to me as doing well


Also, I only apply to one guild at a time.

[Stommped]

Also, I only apply to one guild at a time.

What does that even mean?

http://whateverwereawesome.com/wwa/index.p...ic=2593&hl=

http://gcguild.net/community/threads/teddy...-warrior.11031/

Your first app to us and your app to GC were 2 days apart. Also in your GC app you stated:

I'm currently on Altar Of Storms and applying to Enigma

Meaning in the least you were applied to 3 guilds at the same time, and none of them had officially denied you (you withdrew from GC when Enigma accepted you). Even in your first app to us we asked some concerning questions but no one officially denied you.

I'm not even saying that it's necessarily a bad thing, but there's no point in blatantly lieing.

[Monath]

Pillowy mounds of mashed potatoes

[clearlylol]

You also had an app in with PC as well, so now you're just showing that you're full of shit.

[Teddytauren]

I applied to PC and then a month later they officially denied me. I had pretty much given up before that and started applying to other guilds.

I gave up on my last app here after 1 day (you guys are rather fast at answering apps, this is a very good thing)

Also on my GC app I stated that I figured Enigma had ignored me, and then it turned out that I was wrong.
iirc the timeline was about
Enigma - gave up after ~4 days of not hearing anything
Here- Gave up after 1 or 2 days
GC- put in app and got accepted to Enigma a day or two later.

Pie Chart was significantly before any of these.

No I don't wait for an official denial because they usually take forever.

[Monath]

No I don't wait for an official denial because they usually take forever.

Well there's your problem

[Zorop]

Im not sure why you have blood and thunder on ur main spec as it is used in only two fight in DS.

Can you name me one instance in DS that Throwdown would be very usefull?

I suggest linking Inner Rage with a HS macro that will make sure you dont forget to use it whenever possible as it does not stack with most other Arms CD. ( i add zerker rage to that macro as well for a maximum bonus rage imput )

[Teddytauren]

Im not sure why you have blood and thunder on ur main spec as it is used in only two fight in DS.

Can you name me one instance in DS that Throwdown would be very usefull?

I suggest linking Inner Rage with a HS macro that will make sure you dont forget to use it whenever possible as it does not stack with most other Arms CD. ( i add zerker rage to that macro as well for a maximum bonus rage imput )

Blood and thunder is useful for zonozz (depending on strat), yorsahj, blackhorn, spine(depending on strat), and madness.
And it's kind of required for madness.
The alternative is 3/3 incite, which isn't as large of a buff to single target as BaT is to AoE

The most obvious instance in which throwdown is useful in DS is the sappers on blackhorn. But since the alternative to throwdown is blitz, and since a 25man raid usually has more control than is strictly necessary for sappers (we never had to assign stuns or anything), I saw blitz as a better option. If sappers had become a problem, I'd have specced into throwdown for that fight.

I'm generally opposed to macroing abilities together. This creates problems when there's situation where you want to use them separately and then can't. In this case specifically, if DC is a few seconds away from it's CD, you wouldn't want to pop IR, because it delays DC, but you would want to get rid of rage before using DC.
Also if you know a burst of damage is coming, you would want to pop berserker rage, but not inner rage until the damage comes, you get the rage, and you can then start using HS/IR.

EDIT: I suppose I should note that there are situations where macroing abilities together can be useful, but it's situational. For example, when I was tanking H alysrazor I was required to pop SW, SB, LS, and my trinket at the same time. I macrod those buttons together for that specific occasion to make it faster.

[Toastrinbath]

I don't really have anything new to add, but I was on Deathwing when you applied and I still am friends with a number of Enigma players. Basically they said the same things that have already been stated; you wouldn't have been accepted under normal circumstances.

There was a period during progression where Enigma was really hurting for people in general if not just your class. They had tons of people quit for burnouts or just leave. You were mediocre in both DPS and level of play and in the words of Fountaiin "an rp fag who refused to race change for progression" so despite the fact you say Enigma 'allowed' it as a style choice, I call bullshit. They were continually pushing for US rankings and I personally know they wouldn't let your racial choice to 'look cool' slide. I have heard from numerous Enigma members, they told you to change and you didn't. You seriously only got in because they simply needed bodies.

Aside from that, what kind of attitude is that to be applying to top tier guilds? Even if Fraya had said you can do what you want with your race, would you not want to do what's most beneficial for your guild's progression?

[Teddytauren]

http://imgur.com/5QPEg
I was not officially asked to switch. It was frowned upon. There were hints and jokes, but I was never officially asked.
If I was officially asked I would have switched.


I don't even see why this is an issue since I've already stated that I will switch for progression to the best race available.

[disingenuous]

http://imgur.com/5QPEg
I was not officially asked to switch. It was frowned upon. There were hints and jokes, but I was never officially asked.
If I was officially asked I would have switched.
I don't even see why this is an issue since I've already stated that I will switch for progression to the best race available.

I think the point that everyone is trying to make (the very same point you just aren't grasping), is that you were a Tauren for this very tier. You say you would be more than willing to switch for the betterment of the raid, and yet you didn't. Spine of Deathwing was a ridiculous dps check and you just didn't feel the need maximize your dps (on the most unforgiving fight of the expansion). You keep coming back to the point that you weren't directly asked to switch. My question for you is, why should an officer have to even ask/tell you?

TL;DR This seems to be an "issue" because you say you are willing to switch, yet your immediate history suggests otherwise.

[Teddytauren]

Yes. In Enigma I wanted to stay a tauren. Since then, I've recognized this as a mistake and changed my priorities and will race change for that DPS bonus.
The reason I got that screenshot is because toastr said he didn't believe me.

I also think it's slightly relevant to point out that for H spine I was the person who took the least damage from rolls, and when I told our other warrior how to do better damage to tendons he ignored me.

[Toastrinbath]

I never said it was 'official'. I said a number of players in Enigma asked you to switch. Regardless of whether it came from the GM or some concerned raiders I would think you'd take it into consideration.

I also think it's slightly relevant to point out that for H spine I was the person who took the least damage from rolls,

I'm glad for a DPS race you were able to TAKE less damage.

[Teddytauren]

You're right, sorry, I should try to take more.